Nick Pittman is one of the most visible young artists working in Vancouver today. His paintings are instantly memorable due to their powerful psychadelic effects and iconic forms. He currently has a show with Trevor Larson at Luckyís.

ASHER PENN: I heard you used to graffiti art. Were you a tag artist? Did you ever do hip hop paintings?

NICK PITTMAN: Yeah, I did graffiti. But when it came time to start being out of high school and into the real world and I didnít want to get into the real world. I didnít want to keep being a criminal either, so I figured Iíd find art school as the medium between the two. I never felt quite at home in the graffiti world. Itís an empowering activity for youth but as far as satisfying creative desires I felt held back.

AP: So was it at art school that you started applying that sensibility onto a canvas?

NP: There came a point with graffiti that I felt I wanted to have the forms that were prescribed without having to adhere to letter forms and its relationship to the type word. The first logical step was to make a transition to abstraction. From there I deconstructed it, to synthesize something else that still had that wilder energy that was related to graffiti.

AP: There is this point in your older work that reminds me of the sprawl of a throw up, but the graphic ins and outs remind me of abstract expressionism. Itís like Jackson Pollock, with the no beginning/ no end thing. Do you like Jackson Pollock? NP: I like Picasso more than Pollock.

AP: Really?

NP: I think about the relationship of his themes, the sensual energy that was the main driving energy force with his work.

AP: Energy is a big part of your work.

NP: Yeah, I guess itís the idea of creating a field of energy. A place to deposit and share energies with an audience. Trying to find some different ways of doing that.

AP: One of my favorite things about your work is what separates you from so many artists your age: I find your work pretty humorless. (NICK laughs) You arenít an abstract painter that is employing a motif that references an ideology of the past, using that irony to express him or her. The thing that I was curious about is whether youíre actually expressing yourself with your work?

NP: Yeah, thatís a question I ask myself: if expression is possible, or even viable. I guess itís a problem to work with and explore. I think of my work technically more than emotionally, but at the same time it is a way to deal with a Beuysian notion of dispersal and buildup. I think because of the temporal nature of making artwork, you get to situate yourself in these different moments. Right now these boomers are teaching us and the natural Oedipal relationship in this scenario is that you have to question the thing thatís right in front of you. Weíre faced with these somewhat utilitarian social ideas that have absolutely forbidden a lot of what Grandpa said was ok÷ And Grampa's is looking like a semi-romantic artful kind of hip dude compared to you.

AP: I read somewhere that you were working towards finding a new color. Are you inventing or discovering? Is the new color the light at the end of the tunnel?

NP: I think its kind of a literary them. One of those puzzles that kind of get you to imagine something that is impossible. I donít know that I take it too seriously, but I do like the instances where I can at least pretend that it does happen.

AP: One of my first reactions of your work was that it reminded me of color separation. You know, CMY=K. how important is it that your work is a painting? How do you feel about photographic reproductions of your work?

NP: Its one of those things that I try to think about but I havenít had a chance to express. The idea that a print has a relationship to painting, but itís kind of exploded: itís an exploded version of the dot matrix. It ultimately speaks to the hand, but with a relationship to mass reproduction. Printing is ultimately related to painting. These could be mass-produced and it wouldnít really detract from the effect. I think that the idea of eventually trying to work with a printing press is something I would like to do.

AP: Kinda like Chuck Close.

NP: In a wheelchair?

AP: No, Chuck Close got to this point in his work where he basically employed every printmaker in New York City, from daguerreotypes to silkscreen and lithographs

NICK: Yeah I like the idea of disseminating and infiltrating craft. Right now itís just a focus on developing my vocabulary and finding the right forms.