Aurel Schmidtís painstakingly detailed works on paper recall Dutch still-life/landscapes from the 1600s with a heavy dose of DMT. She recently had her first solo show at Peres Projects in LA and is rumored to have an upcoming show at Deitch Projects in New York next year.
ASHER PENN: The last time I saw you, you had just gotten a pile of William Burroughs books from a friend who was leaving town. It made sense to me for you to be into Burroughs given the nature of your work. Do you ever think about the ďKafka HighĒ? Is your art about feeling like a bug?
AUREL SCHMIDT: Those books are good because they slide between reality and you canít really tell when Burroughs is high or not, whatís paranoid delusion and whatís real. I would say that is a big thing with my work.
AP: Your work has a lot of the trappings of landscape and still life painting that depicts a romantic fantasy world. Simultaneously, there is also this element of the urban world of cigarettes, garbage and subways cards. Is this you painting yourself into your work?
AS: I think itís definitely personal. I like the idea of common things: my metro card, my bank statement, little things. The last piece that I made was body oriented, with orifices, fluids and tampons. Thereís this Theodore Rousseau painting at the met, a black forest thatís like a tangled void with a little light coming through the forest. My piece its like that: from a distance you can tell itís a forest but once you get closer its like all the trees are made of assholes and vaginas, and underneath thereís creatures and garbage and tampons floating around in this murky pool. I once did a face with keys for earrings and coke bags for teeth; this kind of party monster. Itís the vices and the garbage of living in the city.
AP: On a shallow level your work isnít at all like the drawers in the Vancouver art scene. Do you still feel a kindred spirit with Vancouver artists?
AS: The reason that I started doing the kinds of drawings Iím making now is out of rebellion against the Vancouver drawing scene. I didnít really doodle very well. I tried a little bit and they were never good or funny. Iím not really interested in comics, and I donít have a sketchbook. So I started doing hyper-realistic drawings on archival large sheets of paper that were really technical. Iíd been drawing since I was a kid so it was an obvious thing to choose. Everyone in Vancouver was drawing, so you could get encouragement for drawing, but if you werenít drawing that kind of work, you werenít part of the club. If a drawer in Vancouver has inspired me it would be Stephen Shearer. I think when I was doing my dog drawings I was secretly obsessed with his small face drawings.
AP: Iíve never actually seen your work in person. Itís always on the web and most often with supplementary details. How do you feel about that? Are these images that you are supposed to delve into and find moments in, or are you supposed to experience the thing as one single image?
AS: I like the idea that from a distance something looks like one thing but as you get closer you see another; a landscape just looks like a landscape, and the figure a figure but the idea that something could be composed of many things and equal another thing. Its like hallucinations, a Cheshire cat smile where its there but its not. You canít hold on to any part. With the man painting thereís no part of him thatís really there, its all black space or objects sitting on something. Youíre looking at a man but itís really just a bag of garbage.
AP: Do you draw from photographs? From drawings? Memory?
AS: I draw from pictures. I donít care about photo-realism. I find when youíre drawing from the imagination you end up adding all this crap on. You end up adding what you think a bird looks like or what you think a cigarette looks like and it ends up not as interesting. Its like if you were sculpting and you wanted to cast things instead of forming each individual thing on its own. I really like that restraint.
AP: I can understand that youíre self-taught in terms of your technique. Iím curious though how you learned what it meant to be an artist?
AS: I think what made me decide that I wanted to be an artist was from going to small galleries in Vancouver with my boyfriend at the time. I would go to openings and got an idea of what it meant to show in a gallery or to do a show. I felt like I didnít know anything, I didnít know any art history so I was like ďIím going to study art history.Ē I started by studying 1920 to present and it took about 8 months. I was very obsessed with learning this information, because I wanted to know what everyone else knew. It was same, as school except for I didnít have to do critiques. I didnít have to do the projects I didnít want to do. I wish I was more well read because I feel I canít articulate myself the way I would have been able to if I had gone to school. I didnít have to write artist statements. Now I feel a little self-conscious about my ability to reference things: knowing the right words.